Section 8 Rules for Visitors and Unauthorized Guests
This is a question we receive quite often.
Example: You qualify for a 2 bedroom and have 3 people living in the house with you. Your uncle needs a place to stay. You have an extra bed or maybe space in the den/living room.
– Is that a problem?
– Can he stay with you?
– Or will that put your Section 8 Voucher at risk?
Here are the facts:
What you need to know about Section 8 Rules for Visitors
Section 8 Rules are very strict! It is important that you realize this right away, before you start getting yourself into trouble. Breaking the rules may mean that you will loose your voucher forever.
The only people allowed to officially live in your home have to be reported on your HUD 50058 form. This is a form that is included in the application process (and the annual renewal) for Section 8 benefits. It’s called the “Family Report” and outlines each member of your family that will be living with you. This is how Section 8 determines the amount of bedrooms you qualify for.
Even a blood relative, who is NOT officially a part of your household, is considered a guest. This can be a parent, sibling, child, grandchild, etc. This means visitation rules will apply to this person, and he/she will not be able to simply live with you.
If you want someone to stay with you for a substantial period of time, you need to receive approval from your PHA.
How Long Can a Visitor Legally Stay In My Home?
According to Section 8 rules, a visitor CANNOT stay in your house for MORE than 14 consecutive nights without approval.
Some of you may be thinking “Great, I’ll just have him/her stay out of my place once every 2 weeks and it will be all good.” WRONG!! The 2nd part of the rule states that a person CANNOT stay with you more than 21 nights total in any one year (12 month period, not calendar year).
Also, keep in mind that the burden of proof is on you, the voucher holder, not the other way around. So if you are reported (by your landlord, friend, etc.) or are accused by your PHA of having an unauthorized individual living with you, it is your responsibility to prove otherwise.
Finally, you should know that it is possible to formally petition your HA and your landlord to extend the 14 night visitation period. You must have a strong reason for this request and explain it clearly in your letter. Also, it is best to submit this letter as soon as possible; don’t want for the 14 night period to pass! If HA approves your request, be sure to keep their letter for your records.
Proving that a “Visitor” is NOT living with you
It is important to know that if you are allowing an authorized visitor to stay with you longer than allowed by Section 8 rules, you are committing FRAUD. This is because in your annual household application, which is a LEGAL document, you sign that the number of people staying with you is true and correct.
However, there may be a scenario, that you have been wrongfully accused, and that person really is a guest.
In any case, once your landlord or Housing Authority suspects that someone has been living with you without authorization, you will need to prove that they actually reside somewhere else.
Here is a list of documents you may need to present. (note, this is a general list, and a particular Housing Authority may need some additional information):
- Mail to the visitor’s “real” address
- Current utility bill from the visitor’s real address
- A lease with a visitor’s name on it
- A signed/notarized statement from the persons you are residing with and a signed/notarized statement from the allegedly-unauthorized individual as well.
What happens if it is discovered that an authorized individual has been living with you?
Depending on state and federal laws in your location, a few things may happen:
- The Housing Authority will take away your Section 8 voucher for good. This means that you will not be able to reapply for Section 8 for a set period of time, or ever in this state.
- If Housing Authority discovers that the person living with you has income, they will request documentation and raise your rent accordingly, to capture the subsidy they have overpaid.
- If you request to include this person in your household, and they are approved, your rent will also go up (if they have official income).
Overall, it is very important to find out what the rules are where you live, before you allow someone to stay with you.
Why are Section 8 Rules So Strict?
You may be wondering what the big deal is if someone starts to live with you? What is the harm?
There are two reasons why the rules are so strict:
-
Housing Authorities try their best to protect residents and landlords, and to maintain drug and crime free housing. This is why, every member of your family has gone through a criminal background check, before HA approved them for Section 8. An unauthorized visitor has not gone through this criminal background check, so he/she may turn out to be a felon, sex offender, drug addict, etc. A HA would not consider this person safe and would not want them on premises.
-
HA calculates the reduced amount of rent you pay, based on the reported number of people in your household and your reported income. If someone is staying with you and helping you out with rent, this means you are actually stealing money from the government. This is because if this person would be officially included in your household, your rent would be higher!
Why would anybody report someone having people not on there lease staying with them instead of minding their own business cause when you do so you are jeopardizing their housing and livelihood and there could be reason why they can’t be on their lease from past mistakes noone is perfect but you jeopardize their housing and become the reason that they become homeless and it is hard out here.i would never have that on my conscious that a family is homeless because of me minding their business.that is for housing to find out,that’s their job to do not yours.i wouldn’t tell on my worse enemy and see them homeless cause my mother raised me better than that and you have to have an evil spirit to do some utterly hateful stuff like that and don’t care about anyone besides yourself.their kids etc.its not hard to mind your own business in this world.thats why it’s so much crime and murders in this world from people minding other people’s business and once a person losses everything they get to the point where they don’t care anymore and have nothing to lose.
A bunch of snitches
mr. buckner?
Amen
Your a good and rare individual unfortunately these days it’s neighbor and friends and your country men and are not supposed to be enemies. And this type of thing will destroy our freedoms rights and nation from the inside out.
And they worry about another Nation and our enemies that won’t have to lift a hand to destroy us.
Ben Carson? I have seen going on for over two decades. Every time they try to tighten up things from illegals and scammers they are accused of racism. I am biracial… please do not say I am bias or a Trump supporter. The facts are the facts.
I know an tenant name Taquisha Williams that has 3 other tenants that’s been living in her section 8 apartment for over 30 days which is considered as fraud. The names are Simone Jackson(adult) and 2 children….Alexus and Shamel Gibson.
WHY unless really needed to stop harm harassment or disruptive wsys and rights. To live peacefully.
I’m not going to assume a thing and attempt to judge on a situation i have no dats on.
But if you have not a single thought about this and haven’t a liable claim for this and haven’t thought about how putting people on the streets is reckless and deadly to anyone that is or has been then please use some spare time and think.
Best wishes to all and I’m hurt by my country’s division.
And your government is pushing you all agsinst each other over they say stealingoney from them that the majority work and pay to give them that money.
No wonder why countries dislikes us it shameful as &(&(&+&(
Darkwinter is real and is sadly close to becoming competly true and your government has known about this exact situation and is not doing a thing to negate this knowledge but seems to be making sure it gos exactly the way it was ran almost 20 years ago.
And we all about to be in a deadly life threatening state and when you need of help don’t wonder why those will walk past you with a blind eye
What if the person staying isn’t contributing to the rent and already owns their own home in another state? For example, they come stay with you for three months during the summer. They don’t sell their home, they don’t do a change-of-address, they’re just spending the summer and not helping pay the rent.
I have a quest visit 5 days a week and goes home by 10pm does not stay the night I got verbally warned that he stayed over the 14 night minimum which is false what should I do
You are getting free rent if you are getting any money from the government so why complain? You can ask for an appeal but why not just follow what the housing authority tells you to do. Show some gratitude.